HOW TO CHECK YOUR SECONDARY CIRCUIT

BY THE VOLTAGE DROP METHOD

 

It is sometimes hard to tell which component of your spot welder has failed.  We have put together this data sheet to assist you in trouble shooting your spot welder.  USE THIS TEST ONLY AFTER THE SCR AND TRANSFORMER TEST AS SHOWN ON OUR  C-21 / C-22 DATA SHEETS HAVE BEEN READ AND UNDERSTOOD.

 

This is for after testing your SCR & Transformer  and weld control completely.

 (Also check fuses carefully for a voltage drop or replace before going further, many times a fuse “cracks” or does not pass full current even though it reads full voltage!)

 

After testing the primary circuit or changing the transformer, weld control, circuit breaker etc, and weld current still does not flow the problem is probably in the.Secondary Circuit”.

 

This is the low voltage (2-16 Volt AC), high current side of the weld transformer.

Testing of this circuit is not practical with a basic OHM meter.  Using the “voltage drop method” with a VOM (analog) meter is usually the best method to find a problem.

 

Next:  With a VOM (analog meter) connect one lead at point “A” upper tip, and other lead as far back on the upper arm, or to the face of transformer.  Operate welder and try to weld.

There should be no voltage reading!   If a voltage reading of 1 volt or more is detected this shows a “voltage drop” and a bad dirty connection on the upper circuit.  Move you voltage leads from the tip to the holder and on across each joint to find the exact location of the voltage drop.  This should pin point a bad connection.

 

In a like manor do the same thing on the “lower arm”.  From  Point “C” to Point “D”.


 

When welding a voltage of about 1.0 to 2.0 volts should appear across the weld tips, between points “A” to “C”.   Weld checkers and monitors will help measure these secondary currents and voltages.   Miyachi Model MM-326B and Dengensha WS-80 records these values.

 

On cable type gun welders,  ACJ or WCJ cables, these can be tested with this “ voltage drop method ” to determine if they are going bad.  It is a good rule to measure these when new and record the voltage drop as a reference later when testing for problems or bad cables. 

On foreign controls or machines with “Secondary Constant Current” check the pick-up coil for continuity and proper operation or exchange.  This may be damaged.

 

Preventative Maintenance: Clean the weld tips or electrodes.  Check the complete secondary loop connections for bad cables, shunts, connections, weld tip tapers and holder to weld arm connections.  These should all be “clean and tight”.  ( Clean all joints twice a year and use SS-30 Jet Lube)

 

Summary: Be Safe  --  Safety is your responsibility.

                   Check Main Power Fuses & Connections to SCR & Welder.

                   Check  SCR  &  Weld Control

                   Clean Tips & Electrodes

                   Measure with a VOM (Analog) meter at key points per above for trouble shooting.

                   Record weld voltages and current with a weld checker

                   Document the machine for later trouble shooting and testing to save down time.

                   Use the latest “micro-ohm” meters for testing secondary resistance. (Yellow Box.)

                   Trouble shooting a spot welder is a step by step process, do it carefully.

 

RWESCO can repair or replace any

SCR contactor or Welding Transformer.

If you run into this problem please contact our office for further assistance!

 

Welding Equipment & Supply Co.

2045 East 46th Street   Indianapolis  Indiana   46205

Phone: (317) 251-9406     Fax: (317) 251-9407            C-23


HOW TO CHECK FOR A SHORTED SCR

 

It is sometimes hard to tell which component of your spot welder has failed.  We have put together this data sheet to assist you in trouble shooting your spot welders SCR and

Resistance Welder Transformer.

 

SCR's will usually fail in the "ON" position.  This means your transformer is providing "FULL POWER" at "100% HEAT" to your weld tips during the entire welding cycle, including squeeze and hold.  If you trip the foot switch (or palm buttons) the tips will spark and expel metal immediately upon contacting the work piece.

 

A quick check of this problem is to double the squeeze time and reduce the percent heat and try again.  If you still have the same problem your SCR or the Welding Transformer may be the cause.  The following is a simple way to isolate the defective component:

 

A.         With welder power on and without operating foot switch, put a voltmeter

            (set for 2-10 VAC) across the weld tips. (Secondary Side)

 

            If you read voltage within that range, your SCR or the WELDING TRANSFORMER is     shorted.

 

B.         Now open the control cabinet and place a volt meter (Set for 220 or 440 volts AC depending on your plant voltage)  across the (2) lugs of your SCR contactor.

            (Primary Side)

 

            If no voltage is detected, your SCR is shorted and should be returned for repairs              or replaced.

 

            If you read your full line voltage (220 or 440), your SCR is OK and the problem is the     Welding Transformer.

RWESCO can repair or replace any

SCR contactor or Welding Transformer.

If you run into this problem please contact our office for further assistance!

 

Resistance Welding Equipment & Supply Co.

2045 East 46th Street   Indianapolis  Indiana   46205

Phone: (317) 251-9406     Fax: (317) 251-9407      e-mail: rwesco@iquest.net

Visit us on the world wide web at:  www.spotweldequip.com

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QUICK TESTING WELD TRANSFORMERS

 

An Ohm meter test for a weld transformer short to ground can be performed as follows.

 

1.   Be sure to complete an SCR or Ignitron operation test to be sure the contactor is not shorted.  Always check safety items first.  Then check SCR before starting.

 

2.   Turn off Power to the machine.  Get a Ohm meter (analog) and another person to assist you.  Place a wooden block between the tips to keep them from touching.

 

Welder Firing Ignitrons:

3.   Remove the H1 Line from the “X” Bars.

 

Welder Firing SCR Contactor:

3.   Remove the H1 Line from one side of the SCR Contactor.

 

4.   Using the Ohm Meter, hold one probe against the removed H1 Line.  Make sure you are not touching any portion of the control cabinet.

 

5.   With the other probe, touch the control cabinet, then the welders frame.  Do this at all tap locations.

 

6.   If you have continuity, the transformer is shorted to ground and must be sent to the factory for evaluation and repair.  Contact our office for information and directions.

 

7.   If you do not have continuity, the transformer must be tested more extensively.  Continue with our test sheet C-23, How to test weld transformers.

RWESCO can repair or replace any

SCR contactor or Spot Welding Transformer.

If you run into this problem please contact our office for further assistance!

 

Resistance Welding Equipment & Supply Co.

2045 East 46th Street   Indianapolis  Indiana   46205

Phone: (317) 251-9406     Fax: (317) 251-9407

e-mail:  rwesco@iquest.net      Web Site:  www.spotweldequip.com C-22


HOW TO CHECK WELDER FOR TRANSFORMER TO GROUND

 

It is hard to tell which component of your spot welder has failed.  We have put together this data sheet to assist you in trouble shooting your spot welders SCR and Welder Transformer.

 

If a welding transformer goes to ground, you will read voltage at the weld tips.  If the tap setting is increaded the voltage will increase.  As the problem gets worse, you will start blowing fuses.  The transformer must be rewound or a new unit installed.

 

A.         With welder power on and without operating foot switch, put a voltmeter

            (set for 2-10 VAC) across the weld tips. (Secondary Side)

            If you read voltage within that range, your SCR or the WELDING TRANSFORMER is     shorted.  If the voltage is higher then the secondary name plate voltage on the machine,

            the transformer should be suspected.

 

A High Pot or Meg Test should be performed on the transformer to confirm that it is shorting to groung.

 

Welding transformers when shorted to ground, and if the machine is not correctly connected to a solid earth ground, can cause electrical shock.  Grounding reactors are used to prevent shock.  The Grounding Reactor is an additional winding connected across the L1 and L2 lugs for the transformer and with a third line connected to ground.  If a voltage of around 24volts is sent across the connection, the reactor will short to grond and trip the machines circuit breaker.

One side of the secondary is normaly grounded.  If the Primary “A” shunts to ground, a path through the secondary is established.  A voltage across the tips will be present.

 

RWESCO can repair or replace any

SCR contactor or Welding Transformer.

If you run into this problem please contact our office for further assistance!

 

Resistance Welding Equipment & Supply Co.

2045 East 46th Street   Indianapolis  Indiana   46205

Phone: (317) 251-9406     Fax: (317) 251-9407      e-mail: rwesco@iquest.net

Visit us on the world wide web at:  www.spotweldequip.com

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TESTING WELD TRANSFORMERS

THIS IS THE LAST TEST TO TRY  --  BE SAFE!

 

A voltage test for a weld transformer can be performed as follows. Try this test after the tests from sheet C120, C-121, C122, and C-123 have been completed.

 

1.   Be sure to complete an SCR or Ignitron operation test to be sure the contactor is not shorted.

 

2.   Turn off Power to the machine.  Get a voltmeter and another person to assist you. If possible feed in with 110 volts and the machine power off per below.

 

Welder Firing Ignitrons: Replace the entire controller/timer!

 

Welder Firing SCR Contactor:

3.     Jumper across the two main lugs of the SCR.  Use a #4 or larger wire, approximately one foot long.  Be sure the jumper does not touch anything else.

 

4.   Have your assistant turn on the Main Power.

 

5.  Measure the voltage across the upper and lower electrodes.

 **  Be sure the tips are NOT touching! ** 

Use a wooden block to insulate between the weld tips!

 

6.   Direct your assistant to advance the tap switch on the transformer through all settings.

(Unplugging the 110V or turning off the power to the transformer each time!!)

 

7.     If the voltage on the meter reads between 2 to 16 volts (or less with 110V) at each setting, and increases with each higher tap,  the transformer is operating normally.  If no voltage is measured at any setting, the transformer or it's wiring connections are faulty.

 

8.   Turn off the Power to the machine as soon as possible and remove 110V or the jumper.

 

9.   Turn the Power back on and recheck for voltage across the tips.  If voltage is measured, the transformer is probably shorted.

RWESCO can repair or replace any

SCR contactor or Welding Transformer.

If you run into this problem please contact our office for further assistance!

 

Resistance Welding Equipment & Supply Co.

2045 East 46th Street   Indianapolis  Indiana   46205

Phone: (317) 251-9406     Fax: (317) 251-9407     e-mail: rwesco@iquest.net

Visit us on the world wide web at:  www.spotweldequip.com                 C-24